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By David Crane
defrev (at) gmail (dot) com

January 13, 2010

It’s the middle of the night, and I’m laying prone in the woods inside a foreign country called Drok as God-only-knows-how-many–5?–10?–20?–armed men search for me with lights and dogs.

If they capture me, I’m in a world of hurt. On the plus side, I’m well hidden, I’ve got my M4 and my Glock 17, and I’ve got my two teammates, Chris and Jake, who are similarly armed. We’ve all taken a semi-circular defensive position with our M4s trained on the likely enemy approach routes. We’re communicating as quietly and sparsely as we can sans radios (had to ditch ‘em) amidst the barking dogs and gun shots as the enemy searches for all of us on foot and in vehicles. The woods light up around us intermittently with one purpose–to find us.

scg international tactical humint 1 <!  :en  >SCG International Risk Tactical Human Intelligence (HUMINT) / Espionage Operations Course: Clandestine Operations Behind Enemy Lines<!  :  >Staying quiet isn’t easy, since we’re laying on a pile of large, dry leaves that make loud crackling noises as soon as any of us moves a muscle. It’s really annoying, not to mention tactically problematic. Just reaching into one’s pocket has to be done slowly and carefully, and it still makes some noise.

How the hell did we get ourselves into this situation? What went wrong? We had to have been compromised, i.e. double-crossed…but I’m getting ahead of myself. We’d come to this remote location to neutralize, i.e. kill, the primary threat, Hassan a.k.a. “Doc”, although that’s not what we call him. To us, he’s “Ghost”. That’s his op call-sign, and it’s appropriate since no one on our side has ever seen him and lived to tell about it. Ghost is really bad news. He’s highly homicidal and well-funded.

Actually, as it turns out, at this particular moment, he’s after us, and he’s got the upper hand. Turns out Ahmed the arms dealer, the guy who sold us our weapons, was somewhat less than trustworthy and a man with no particular loyalty other than to the almighty dollar, of which Ghost had more than us. So, the hunters have become the hunted, the pursuers the pursued…in the woods, guns ready.

By the way, I’m experiencing all of this with a pair of wet feet, thanks to a deep mud puddle I stepped—excuse me, fell—into during my mad dash into the treeline to avoid detection by the enemy.

Thank God it’s just an exercise, part of the part of a unique 5-day tactical HUMINT (Human Intelligence) course run by SCG International Risk. Exercise or not, though, capture isn’t an option, since it carries unknown consequences that are likely to be highly unpleasant. SCG’s “HUMINT Operations Course” could just as easily be called a “Tactical Spycraft Course” or “Tactical Espionage” course, because that’s really what it is. While it involves some combatives instruction, including hand-to-hand combatives, edged weapons combatives, and tactical firearms combatives (i.e. tactical shooting instruction), it’s really a course in espionage tradecraft.

scg international tactical humint 3 <!  :en  >SCG International Risk Tactical Human Intelligence (HUMINT) / Espionage Operations Course: Clandestine Operations Behind Enemy Lines<!  :  >In any type of combat or warfare, the primary weapon is the brain, not the physical instrument you hold in your hand, or the hand itself. That’s especially true here. If you have to use your firearm here, you’ve probably made some kind of mental error that’s led to an error of action. The key to tactical human intelligence is being smart, using your tradecraft, keeping a low profile, outthinking your enemy, surviving, and getting out alive.

Anyway, the first page of the course notebook puts you on notice that “you can fail this course,” and that “the keys to success are flexibility, adaptability, resourcefulness, and the gathering of intelligence to accomplish the mission of the Commander in the Field.” During our first briefing in the SCG classroom, we were informed that we have just flown into the Democratic Republic of Krasnovikstan a.k.a. DROK, which is apparently not a very nice place. Let’s put it this way, it ain’t Tahiti, and you’re probably not going to run into Robin Leach during your stay. What you will run into are radical Islamist groups, terrorists, criminals, DROK Internal Security Service (ISS) agents, corrupt government officials, the aforementioned arms dealer(s), and whole host of human rights abuses, which will no doubt happen to you if you’re caught operating as a spy—I’m sorry, “tactical human intelligence officer”—inside their country.

But we’re looking for one terrorist miscreant in particular, the aforementioned “Ghost”, and we want him bad. However, at the moment, he’s got us…in the dark…in the woods.

Understand that as a tactical human intelligence officer, or “IO”, you’re essentially a professional criminal. You’re being paid to break foreign laws. You just happen to be working for Uncle Sam.
Inside the classroom or on the firing range, you’re safe. But once you’re outside the classroom, you’re a foreigner in DROK 24/7 and the locals are restless. You have to assume you’re being surveilled, that you’re hotel room can be compromised (i.e. entered and searched) by DROK ISS agents, and that you can be attacked, arrested, imprisoned, and/or killed at any time if you’re not careful. Say hello to your new friend, constant paranoia—and it is your friend because it will keep you alive. Oh, and it’s probably your only friend—unless you have teammates–so cherish and use it like a good little operative.

Your goal is to to find and kill Ghost while he’s still in DROK before he can either attack the United States, or assist other terrorists in doing so. The problem is, Ghost is being aided and funded by DROK ISS officials, which puts you, or in this case, me and my compatriots, at a severe tactical disadvantage. But we’re not gonna’ whine about it, ‘cause whiners don’t win. We’re gonna’ take these lemons and turn them into lemonade. We’re gonna’ turn our frowns upside down, somehow get to our vehicle, and get this guy. And get this guy we must.

scg international tactical humint 6 <!  :en  >SCG International Risk Tactical Human Intelligence (HUMINT) / Espionage Operations Course: Clandestine Operations Behind Enemy Lines<!  :  >Well before our current predicament, we’ve had to evade DROK ISS surveillance teams. When you’re an intelligence operative working in a foreign country, you have to assume you’re being watched and act accordingly at all times, even if you can’t see the surveillance. That’s where your SDRs, or “Surveillance Detection Routes”, come in. This is one of the primary foci of the SCG course. I have to be careful about what I write about performing a proper SDR, so I’ll just cover a few points about it. First, what is it? An SDR is a “pre-planned and timed route of travel and stops executed to detect and, if necessary, manipulate surveillance in order to accomplish an operational objective. You have to run them often while you’re operating. If you don’t, you’re doing so (or not doing so as the case may be) at your own peril. If you’re being watched by the local authorities, you can and probably will get caught. If you’re being watched by the the terrorist and his minions, you can and probably will be killed. Neither scenario is optimum. So, if you want to engage in tradecraft, do your SDRs. SCG teaches you how.

One of the things they teach you is that you have to run your SDRs differently against a terrorist or criminal organization vs. an opposing intelligence organization. You have to run SDRs unpredictably against the former, and be as boring and predictable as possible against the latter. You want to lull the opposing IOs to sleep. That’s all I’ll say on this topic. Just remember that proper SDRs are very important to your work as an IO. This work will most likely involve setting up and conducting clandestine personal meetings, like when you have to buy M4s and Glock 17s from arms dealers. It will also involve clandestine communications, like utilizing dead drops and clandestine communication. If you’re utilizing a dead drop, and you’re the dropper, you have to choose a good location. If it’s in an urban environment, you have to familiarize yourself well with that environment. SCG teaches you how to do all of these things.

One of the most interesting and fun aspects of the course was the lesson in vehicle pick-ups and drop-offs. You may have to pick up or drop off another IO or asset, or be picked up or dropped off yourself, without being seen doing so, all while the vehicle you/they are in is still moving and being tailed and you/they can’t shake that tail. We spent a couple of hours drilling in the requisite vehicle entry and exit techniques and procedures. The whole thing is a tricky procedure that must be performed in a specific way to avoid detection, and it must be done quickly and efficiently. SCG teaches you how to drive the car properly, help the pickupee into the moving car, and how to enter and exit the (moving) car yourself. Very cool class.

But no matter how proficient you are in your tradecraft, you might still end up experiencing a physical confrontation with the bad guys. That’s when you have to rely on your armed and unarmed combat training. Chief instructor “D” (first letter of first name) first taught us some gross-movement, efficient disarming tactics and techniques against knife and gun-wielding opponents. D taught us to fight the person, not just the weapon. Sounds obvious, right? Perhaps. But when you’re actually confronted by someone trying to jam a knife into your stomach, or shoot you at close range with a handgun, there’s a tendency to focus on the weapon to the point that you forget that there’s an entire person there in front of you. If you manage to grab the gun arm, wrist, or hand, that person still has an operational brain and other limbs with which to grab and strike you. So, while it’s advisable to focus on the weapon and weapon hand and arm, just don’t forget about the rest. D stresses that the threat won’t always be in front of you. Your adversary might start the attack from behind you, and we learned some gross-movement defensive tactics and techniques to counter this. All the techniques were designed to be absorbed and utilized in a very short period of time, and to be realistic.

scg international tactical humint 20 <!  :en  >SCG International Risk Tactical Human Intelligence (HUMINT) / Espionage Operations Course: Clandestine Operations Behind Enemy Lines<!  :  >D also conducted a dynamic tactical pistol class that covered shooting-on-the-move, including rapid lateral movement, shooting from behind concealment and cover, and shooting from prone positions behind cover and concealment. Again, the focus was on tactical realism. If you’re caught out in the open during a firefight, you don’t want to stay out in the open, and you definitely don’t want to remain static out in the open. You want to move to cover as quickly as possible, possibly engage the enemy while you’re moving to cover, and then shoot from cover, utilizing that cover to the fullest extent.

Again, the SCG Tactical HUMINT course isn’t a hand-to-hand combat or shooting course, though. Those training cycles were conducted simply to provide the students with a rounded training experience, and give us some effective basic tools in case we’re presented with the worst case scenario. The goal of the IO is to avoid having to physically fight it out with the opposition, unless it’s on your terms, and you’re the one with the tactical advantage. Tactical HUMINT is similar to executive protection in the sense that if you have to fight it out with your opponent on his terms, you’ve probably made a gross tactical error somewhere along the line.

The course is ultimately about achieving your operational objectives through using your brain and conducting tactical HUMINT tradecraft effectively until an opportunity to capture or kill your target presents itself–that is, if you have a human target. SCG did a great job at putting the students on edge from the moment we arrived. They let us know before we even got into town (Holly Springs, Mississippi) that there were going to be eyes on us from the moment we arrived. Our hotel, the Le’Brooks Inn, was under surveillance. Our vehicles were under surveillance. We were under surveillance. Jake: “We get our welcome aboard packages before we even fly. As you’re reading your welcome aboard package and it says [something to the effect of] “Your scenario starts right now, as you’re reading this document, and surveillance is active right now,” so,you have got to start considering what you are doing and how you are behaving even before you arrive to train.”

When we got to class on the first day, we were informed that DROK ISS agents were at that moment going through our rooms and whatever was inside them. That little tidbit came courtesy of SCG President Jamie Smith, who conducted all of the classroom training. The classroom was a welcome respite from the abject paranoia that consumed us the rest of the time, since Smith informed us that the classroom was the equivalent of our home base, a veritable no man’s land, if you will, where the enemy couldn’t harm us or gather intelligence on us—even though our cars and hotel rooms were still fair game.

But back to the paranoia. Intelligence officers are paid to be paranoid. That’s a big part of their job. As an IO, you have to assume the enemy is watching you and plotting against you, because they probably are. Jake: “It’s really good at making you think on your feet. I mean, you’re walking around conducting one of the various assignments you receive and you begin to notice that anybody that might look at you funny is suspect. You initially think that they are under opposition control. Your mind says “this guy is not my friend.” It can make you paranoid, but you try not to be. Jamie and D do a great job of teaching us how to handle that situation and not be completely paranoid, just to have a plan if trust is lost.”

This is a very disconcerting experience if you’re not used to it. After a few days, you get somewhat used to it, but it’s still not comfortable, because you know you can’t relax. This is by design. The SCG instructors keep you on edge the whole time by accurately simulating a real-world overseas HUMINT op. There’s no set schedule. At any hour of the day or night, you might have to contact an asset by phone, email, or in person (through a clandestine meeting). You might have to stay awake and drive to a distant (clandestine) meeting location at 2:00 am. Then, you might have to abort the meeting. Then, you might have to head out again for a different location at 3:30 am. The tactical human intelligence business has no set hours or locations. It’s a dynamic, fluid environment that requires you to constantly adapt to changing conditions and deal with the unexpected and unwanted.

Remember our M4s and G17s that we got from the arms dealer? Well, after we conducted our clandestine meeting with him and picked up our weapons from another location, we had to drive to a strange town, book a motel room, and sit tight until we received information on Ghost’s location, so we could then go neutralize him. Unfortunately, as it turns out, DROK law enforcement caught up with us, well, me, actually, at the motel, and started questioning me outside the room. It should be noted that it’s real Mississipi law enforcement officers that pull up in very real police cars, and they’re not screwin’ around. This is a confusing situation that blends a serious dose of reality with our operational simulation.

At this point, I’m by myself, and my two teammates are safe in other other locations. They’re close by, mind you, but they’re not in police custody, like me. However, as the heat is questioning me about the vehicle that we parked directly outside the room (doh!), I make a rather stupid rookie mistake that ends up getting my teammates caught and arrested with me. But, by the time I’m in handcuffs, I’m already learning, and I start making better decisions regarding my communications with said law enforcement. And a good thing, too, because Ghost is still on the loose, and the weapons we need to use to capture or kill him are hidden in the room, so we don’t want the fuzz searching it. The police interrogation is intense, but we stick to our stories and they end up letting us go. Major relief, and an important lesson learned. I’ve learned how to answer certain questions better and what not to do again. It’s a very good lesson that will no doubt serve me well later in life if, God forbid, I ever have to undergo a real police interrogation. It’s a very simple thing, really, but you’ll have to take the course and live through the experience to learn what it is.

Anyway, now that our collective arrest and interrogation is over, we’re off to neutralize Ghost. The only reason we’ve gotten this far is that we have an asset in place inside DROK ISS, codename DB-Tango. The U.S. recruited DB-Tango by taking advantage of his favorable opinion of the U.S and commensurate unfavorable opinion of DROK internal politics, particularly the Islamic influence. He also isn’t happy about how his family was denied access to DROK services (utilities like power and water) for six months by Islamic authorities. For the last several years, DB-Tango has been operating from inside DROK MOI HQ (Ministry of the Interior Headquarters) as the Network Administrator for Jihad Support Division (JSD), of which U.S. intelligence services were previously unaware. There are just some things Satellites and aircraft just can’t give you.

Anyway, we’ve received intel through email (all of our communications are via email, cellphone text and voice comms, and dead drops) that Ghost is holed up in a barn out in the middle of nowhere about 25 miles away. So, out to the farm we go. We roll up, park the car down the road a bit on the side of the road, and, weapons and radios at the ready, head for the barn. Only my friggin’ radio won’t stop beeping for some reason, and I can’t make it stop, no matter what knobs I turn or buttons I push. I’ve gotta’ get this radio out of here, so Chris, our driver, hands me the keys and sends me back to the vehicle. If we have to make a mad dash out of Dodge, I’m gonna’ be the getaway driver. Only when I get back to the vehicle, I decide that I’m not staying in the vehicle or anywhere out in the open. Instead, I ditch the beeping radio close by where I can find it later, and duck into the woods, right behind the treeline, to hide and act as a lookout. If the guys come back in a hurry, I should be close enough to get to the vehicle quickly.

Great. Now I’m alone in the treeline with no radio (I can still hear it beeping out there) while my two teammates are short a man as they attempt to neutralize Ghost. Next thing I know, shots are ringing out, and I know it’s not my team doing the shooting because they’ve only got Blue Guns! Oh, I’m sorry. Did I forget to mention that? So, those gunshots off in the distance are definitely not a good thing for us. Those are shotguns…and rifles! It’s an ambush, and we’re the ambushees! Now dogs are barking, lights are darting around, and vehicles with very bright headlights are driving around. Our tactical situation is deteriorating by the minute. The phrase “total clusterfuck” comes to mind. The only thing I’ve got going for me is that I’m pretty well hidden in the trees. My buddies, however, are not, and God only knows where they are and what condition they’re in, at the moment. Meanwhile, I’m retreating further into the woods out of sheer terror. A minute that feels like an hour goes by, and, all of a sudden, I hear people running towards my position, which is again, fairly close to the vehicle. I instinctively point by Blue Gun M4 in the direction of the footsteps. “David!” That’s me. Is that one of my guys? Time for the ol’ challenge and password technique. I yell “2!” and listen back for the correct answer. Someone yells back “5!” Right answer (7 was the predetermined number). I don’t have to shoot them. Instead, I guide them towards me with my voice.

Now, all three of us are well back from the treeline, in the woods, and we’ve taken up a three-man prone defensive position with our M4s. So we’re back where the story started. We’ve gotta’ get back to the car to get the hell outta’ here. But how do we do that without getting shot or captured? It’s cold out here, but none of us are really feeling it. We’ve all got warm jackets and adrenaline coursing through us, so we’re good, for now, except for those pesky enemy search teams. So, what’s going on? Basically, Ghost has turned the tables on us. This whole thing was a trap, and he and his guys were just waiting for us to show up. Evil bastards. Then again, Ghost is a terrorist. While we’re all splayed out, here, I’ve been dialing D and leaving messages on his cell describing our current predicament and requesting backup, as if this is a TV show. Hey, what do I know? I’m throwin’ spaghetti against the wall, at this point. Vehicles are driving around us and men with dogs are running back and forth, people are firing shotguns into the air, and we’re just sittin’ tight. Finally, after 45 minutes to an hour of hiding and staying quiet as mice, we wait for a lull in the action, strike up the courage to vamoose, and we make our mad dash to the car. (Quietly) Go. Go. Go. We’re moving fast. It’s dark, and we’re not using our flashlights for obvious reasons. I step in a deep puddle and run headlong into a ditch. Before I know what’s happening, I’m on the ground. I immediately pick myself up and keep going. I have to. I’ve got the car keys. As we’re running, I hand the keys to Chris, we unlock the SUV and pile in as fast as we can, and drive off…FAST. Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! We escape, but we don’t relax any until we get to the highway. Jesus. That thing went wrong on so many levels.

We finally get back to the hotel, get ready to hit the sack, but no such luck. We get the call that we have to drive back to a town we’d visited earlier in order to pick up crucial intel that’s just come in regarding Ghost’s new location. At this point, it’s about 3:30 am, and I’ve got a TV appearance the next day and have to get some sleep, so I do just that. My two teammates graciously pick up the slack and head back out. When I wake up, I find out that they got good intel on where Ghost was going to be the next morning to make a pick-up, set-up on the location, and sniped him when he showed up. Chris and Jake got him. Thank God.

Jake and Chris come pick me up and take me to class for the operation debrief and after action report (AAR) and subsequent graduation ceremony.

Bottom line, if you have any desire whatsoever to do field intelligence work, I highly recommend the SCG Tactical HUMINT, without any reservations. Just make sure you’re in reasonably good physical health, as it is stressful. However, as difficult as it was at times, it was well worth it. To a man, all three of us (students) agreed that the tradecraft we learned in the course is not only valuable if we choose to go the intelligence route, but also in our daily lives and respective professions. For Jake, a Captain in the U.S. Military, the skills he acquired in the course will definitely help him in his military work. The following is an excerpt from my phone interview with him, afterward:

Crane: The most useful thing you got out of it was what? If you were saying “What do I take from this course and how will this course serve me moving forward with whatever I’m doing or if I ever choose to do this or just in my general life or what have you.

Jake: I think probably two approaches. The first one would be from a military standpoint because of the fight we’re in right now. If you’re in Iraq or Afghanistan, you’ve gotta’ make friends with the local populace, and gain their trust. It’s a counterinsurgency operation. In a counterinsurgency operation, one of your goals is to win the trust of the people. We’re there, and then there’s these people in the middle that are friendly but are pushed around and either intimidated or threatened by insurgents, and our job is to show them that they can trust us and that we can eliminate that threat for them. To do that, you’ve got to convince them that it’s safe to tell you things. Does that make sense? I want this farmer to tell me who’s hiding RPG rounds in his farm, who is emplacing roadside IEDs, and the difficulty can be that the insurgent or group of insurgents may be threatening his well being or his life if he tells me. And that’s almost to the tee what we were learning at this course, is getting people to give us information or do something for us that’s dangerous to them, that’s dangerous to their family and they’ve gotta’ have some type of motivation to do it otherwise it might not be worth it for them to do so. Right now, that’s what everybody with boots on the deck wants to be able to accomplish regardless of what your job is and this type of training can certainly help with that.

Crane: Right, and while you’re doin’ that, you gotta’ figure out also if you can trust them, if they’re not gonna’ burn you. If the information that they’re giving you is reliable, number one…or accurate,, reliable, or whatever, and secondly, whether or not they’re gonna’ burn you.

Jake: And you can’t tell me that that’s any different from what we were learning and doing down there during the course.

He continued, talking about the anti-crime skills that civilians, including women, can learn from the course:

Jake: On the other hand, you could take a lot of stuff from that course and apply it to everyday life and you can avoid bad things happening to you. Look at women who are rape victims. I would be willing to bet that most of the time, attackers don’t just drive down to the middle of town and pick somebody at random and throw them into the back of the van. I would be willing to bet that they are going to spend a great deal of time to figure out who a good target would be and develop some kind of plan to attack and base that off of your daily routine. Now, imagine if you knew how to conduct simple surveillance detection, if somebody had taught you just that piece of the course. How much more that could prevent you from being the victim. And then even throw in the DT [Defensive Tactics] that D was teaching us. For example when we were simulating keying into the front door of our house or standing at the ATM and somebody comes up to attack you, and we were learning how to deal with that as well. How much more realistic with regards to everyday life does that get. Even though this course was focused on human intelligence, imagine how these skills, if tailored to everyday citizens, could save lives. After being through some of SCG’s courses, if there was one thing that consistently is discussed or taught is the reason a lot of bad stuff happens to people can at most times be attributed to the fact that we can be creatures of pattern. We love going to the nearest Dunkin’ Donuts every morning and getting a small coffee with cream and sugar at 0530 because it helps us get through the day, and that becomes your routine. That is what can get you into a bad situation, and it can be hard to break that for some people. It is especially important when you are in a high threat area. You cannot do the “well, here comes my everyday this…or…at 5 o’clock I go here …and 7 o’clock I do that.” That places you in a certain predictable spot, at a predictable time, and doing a certain thing that people will start to identify and easily exploit. Imagine if you could be able to pare part of that class down and show that to every woman in the United States. Imagine the decline in attack or rape cases in America if victims knew how to use their heads to prevent such an attack.

Jake then went a little more into the DT training we received from D in the SCG Tactical HUMINT course.

Jake: Anytime I train with D, I learn something new. A lot of what he taught us I had done before with him in an earlier course. However, I think D brings something out during every DT class that can make you feel like some of the things you may have learned in the past aren’t as good as you initially thought they were. And I think one of the big examples of this was when we were doing the unarmed vs. pistol. Counter to pistol: pointed at my head, pointed at my chest, pointed at my gut. Remember that one?

Crane: Yeah.

Jake: I thought I knew how to do that. And they were decent techniques that I was taught for those scenarios, but I also remember thinking…I really, really hope I never have to execute those techniques. D brings in techniques that can blow what you thought you knew out of the water. He is able to show you a technique and then answer any challenge to that technique, and then have you perform it to a point where there is a substantial increase in confidence of what you have learned and your ability to perform it.

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I also interviewed Chris by phone. The following is an excerpted portion of that interview:

Crane: So, overall, what did you think of the course?

Chris: It was well done, it was well put together, it was demanding, real-life situation style.

David Crane: It was really an immersion course. The course immerses you in the culture and the life of it. All of the training scenarios are designed to do this.

Chris: I think the real-life interrogation was the highlight of the learning experience, and what I liked the most about the course was, I would have to say, my team, ’cause there wasn’t a whole bunch that I really liked about it, because it was demanding, it was tough. I mean, it really was. It was a crash course.

Crane: Yeah. I mean, it really was kind of annoying, at points.

Chris: Yea, it was, but that’s the real deal.

Crane: I felt like they were always trying to keep us on edge, through us off, always put constant obstacles in our way.

Chris: Goin’ on little sleep. Yeah, it was very much a real environment.

Crane: A little sleep deprivation.

Chris: Yeah, a little bit.

Crane: Yeah, when you say the interrogation portion, are you talking about when we got arrested?

Chris: Well, we didn’t get arrested, but yes, by the local law enforcement.

Crane: Yeah, well, I mean, we didn’t get completely arrested, but we got semi-arrested.

Chris: Yeah, the hour and forty-five minute interrogation.

Crane: Yeah, it was a little bit intimidating, but at the same time, there was kind of a fun, exciting aspect of it.

Chris: Yeah, I guess when it was over, it might have been a little more…

Crane: Is there something that you thought could have been done better or that you didn’t like about it?

Chris: No, I think it was really well done. They had a lot of resources for a short amount of time. The weapon interception that we were supposed to make that went awry, and we were in the creek bed [woods] for an hour.

Crane: Yeah, that was, for me, that was the most exciting part of the whole thing, was that part where we’re in the woods and we all took a position, we all took firing positions and sort of hunkered down and got ready for confrontation and escape.

Chris: The intensity. It was always intense. The most lackadaisical point, I think, was in the classroom, ’cause we knew nothing was gonna’ go wrong there. Outside, we were always on edge, even at the hotel.

Crane: We felt like we were always being watched.

Chris: We were always doing surveillance detection and trying to spot surveillance. You don’t know if the little old lady that’s serving you your lunch is a member of the opposition surveilling you, part of the surveillance apparatus, if you will. [The mindset is] you’re always being surveilled.

Crane: I ended up enjoying the course more than I thought it was going to.

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